In this episode of The Smart Economy Podcast, host Dylan Grabowski is joined by Anndy Lian, author of Web4: The Age of Autonomous Intelligence. Together, they explore why the next evolution of the internet may require more than simply combining AI with blockchain. Lian explains why he believes Web3 failed to achieve true decentralization, how AI agents could become a new layer of digital coordination, and why future systems must balance autonomy, transparency, privacy, and community governance. The conversation also dives into meme coin communities, government adoption of blockchain, decentralized AI, and what a genuinely user-owned internet might look like.
What you’ll learn:
Anndy Lian is an intergovernmental blockchain advisor, investor, entrepreneur, and best-selling author who has spent more than a decade working across blockchain, fintech, digital transformation, and emerging technologies. Since entering crypto in 2012, he has advised governments, regulators, enterprises, exchanges, and financial institutions on blockchain adoption and digital asset strategy. Lian is the author of Web4: The Age of Autonomous Intelligence, where he outlines his vision for a future internet powered by decentralized AI, autonomous agents, and community-owned infrastructure. Having worked at the intersection of public policy, business, and technology across Asia, Europe, and the Middle East, he brings a unique perspective on how blockchain and AI may converge to shape the next generation of digital systems.
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